Grow concrete? Now we know the climate deniers’ nonsense can be debunked | Zoe Williams

Grow concrete? Now we know the climate deniers’ nonsense can be debunked | Zoe Williams

Green activists used to be routinely ridiculed. A radio host’s car-crash performance shows how much things have changed

Radio wonks are calling it the interview that made its own headlines: TalkRadio’s Mike Graham went head-to-head with Cameron Ford, a young carpenter and environmental activist. In 57 seconds, each more delicious than the last, Graham sets out to unmask Ford as just another blowhard hypocrite and instead checkmates himself so thoroughly that the only logical endpoint to his argument is to claim that you can grow concrete.

Ford’s is a masterclass in a new debating style: you don’t have to chase every stick your opponent throws for you. Silence can be a bear trap. But the exchange distilled something more profound: an imperturbable confidence and maturity not just in the carpenter but in the environmental cause itself.

Zoe Williams is a Guardian columnist

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